Discussing his plans for the Ruskin School and the responsibility he feels in the light of
John Ruskin's expenditure of time and money on the school. He wants to institute an oil painting class, which he knows runs counter to Ruskin's wishes.
MacDonald told him that nothing but watercolour painting was permitted. He also wants to teach fresco and tempera (and modelling in clay). For this he needs a workshop where he can make a mess without "calling down wrath". Here he can pass down theories which time has proved to be right. MacDonald will accept the post of Master. He himself will visit once a fortnight to teach various classes, in addition to his course of six lectures.